FBI ballistics and decision to go with 9mm

We paid untold millions for this FBI study, I figured it would be nice if the group benefited from the ballistics data. Enjoy!

http://p2t2solutions.com/fbi-finally-decides-on-standard-service-rounds-for-its-use/

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March 2015, the inaugural “Boys Adventure Club” trip.

As a group, we’d been discussing this on and off for the last couple of years. The javelina hunt has been less and less about a hunt, and more about seeing new areas in the state. This year, we decided that it was just best to let the hunt fall by the wayside, and just have an adventure.

(Building from Bullwrinkle’s FB post.)

We, the Hairy Legged Boys, decided the best starting spot would be at Bullwrinkle’s Garage. We’d consolidated down to two vehicles for the trip. Bulljeffe and I needed to climb up out of the valley, so we did that the night before, and celebrated our getting away by having a couple of strong adult beverages once we crossed over the magical threshhold of Bullwrinkle’s garage.

The following morning, we met up with PTBNL2 and started our adventure. The first planned stop was Speedy’s for some red chili burritos. There we encountered our first delimma, as there were four of us, and they only had three red chili burritos. Thankfully, Bullwrinkle gave in, and volunteered to have the green chili (and there was much rejoycing.)

Stop at Speedy's

Having satiated our appetites (and potentially clearing the last of a hang-over), we proceeded on. The goal was to get to Fredonia, AZ, with a destination of the Buckskin Tavern. It’s claim to fame is that it is the longest bar in the State of Arizona, and we figured that was a redeeming enough quality that we needed to pay it a visit. We were not disappointed.

Now, there is a side trip that we took in here, but there are potential legal ramifications if I post any pictures, so it didn’t really happen




Leaving the Buckskin Tavern, we finally turned off-road, beginning what ended up being 270 miles of dirt roads. The roads were varying quality, but all passable with our vehicles. The goal was to find a camp site, set up camp, and get to the rim so we could watch the sunset over the Grand Canyon.














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Hike up Vulcan’s Anvil & Vulcan’s Throne















Adam’s Leaning Wheel Grader








Nampaweap Petroglyph Site









Mount Trumbull Wilderness to the Hurricane Cliffs








Mount Trumbull Schoolhouse




Mount Dellenbaugh, just missing a bucket-list item of Bullwrinkle’s









Gerfunken’s Full Photo Gallery

Unit 8 Hunts listed in the 2013/2014 Main Regs

So, I just noticed that the new regs are out. Going through the list of what is available in Unit 8:

Deer$42.25 for hunt, $34.75 for archery tag.
Hunt 1010, Nov 1-Nov 7, 2013 for any antlered Mule deer, 650 permits.
Hunt 1081, Oct 25-Nov 3, 2013 for any antlered Whitetail deer, 75 permits.
Archery, Aug 23-Sept 12, 2013 for any antlered deer.
Archery, Jan 1-Jan 31, 2014 for any antlered deer.

Turkey$25.50 for hunt, $18.00 for archery tag.
Hunt 4509, Oct 4-Oct 10, 2013 for any turkey, 600 permits.
Archery, Aug 23 – Sep 12, 2013 for any turkey.

Bear$22.25 for tag.
OTC Tag, Oct 4 – Dec 31, 2013 for any bear except sows with cubs

Mountain Lion$14.50 for tag.
OTC Tag, year-long

Quail
Oct 4 – Feb 9, 2014

Squirrel
Oct 4 – Dec 31, 2013

Rabbit
Year-long

To Jav or Jav-not-elina

Sorry I haven’t posted a trip report for 2013 javelina.

The sad fact is there were no 2013 javelina.

I will update this later with more info about where we were and what we saw, but much of the actual hunting time was utterly forgettable.

We are currently opening discussions on what to do for future javelina hunts.

Our current options:

1. Move the javelina hunts to the bottom end of Unit 8, and utilize the time to not only hunt javelina, but get to know every square inch of the unit. We talked about this on our elk hunt, but interest seemed to fizzle out aafterwards.

2. Put in for javelina in different units, using the time to investigate areas of the state we’d like to get more time in. (I’m looking at you, Galiuro Mountains)

3. Put in near Sedona (or the White Tanks), and leave from home every morning.

4. Skip hunting, and make it a “boy’s weekend” for shooting, 4x4ing, etc.

5. Save the time off for deer, elk, antelope.

Please add any other ideas you may have.

9mm results

Just got back from shooting my first box of my own 9mm reloads and I thought I would share some results.

These were all 115gr plated RN HSM bullets. I bought them just for making target ammo. They are sold in boxes of 250 and are pretty cheap so I inspected them and measured some random samples and they were very consistent. +1 to HSM for a quality target round.

The Hodgdon site suggests 4.0 gr. min and 4.5 gr. max for this bullet and the “Universal” powder. I wasn’t ready to manufacture 100+ without some quick testing and I’m glad I waited.

I manufactured 20 of each at 4.0, 4.2, and 4.5 gr of powder. Crimp and seating depth were unchanged through the cycle.

I didn’t measure but I was roughly 25 feet from my targets, I’m pretty comfortable from this range especially when trying out new stuff (more on that in a minute).

I had problems right off the bat with the light loads. The 4 grain loads had feed problems in my XDM. Every 3rd or 4th round was stovepiping which was very unusual, this pistol has been a rock-solid performer with factory ammo. Not good. Here’s my target:

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I was extremely comfortable with my mechanics. Those low-fliers? Not me. And yes, I did mislabel all my targets with 40,42 and 45 instead of 4.0, 4.2 and 4.5. Pretty consistent load, but the feed problems kill it and I think they were also responsible for the low shots.

Next up was the 4.2 gr. I had 2 more stovepipes with these so they were just a little light on the powder. Check the target.

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A few rounds are a little high and again, I think 2 of those can probably be credited to the stovepiping and the lack of a solid chambering afterwards. Pretty damn consistent! This was my best target of the day.

On to the 4.5 gr.:

I made the mistake of putting down the 9mm, changing out targets and then deciding to have a little fun with the new .44. I did! It was! Shooting a silky smooth piece of history like that Super Blackhawk was awesome. Unfortunately, I think it made me nervous for the rest of the time I was shooting. I was running HSM “Bear Loads” through it and they were vicious. 305 grain bullets and man did they pack a punch. The new Hogue grips took care of the pinching problem, but unfortunately didn’t save my palm from a big ol’ gnarly blister. I also failed to bring a screwdriver with me that would fit the sites, stupid mistake. It is consistently high and a little left.

Anyway, the 4.5 gr. rounds. All of the feed problems were fixed with a few more grains of powder. No problems whatsoever. I could feel a little sharper recoil with these that I didn’t notice going from the 4.0 to 4.2. However, here’s the target.

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Now, I know a couple of those fliers were just plain old me. I was a little shaky and “gun shy” after blowing some very large holes in a beetle killed Ponderosa pine. The whole tree was shuddering every time one of those massive .44 mags hit it. Bullwrinkle can attest to how much fun those Ruger’s are, but they are stressful to shoot more than 18-24 rounds through. ( I put a full box of 50 through mine +12 .44 specials)

For the most part, those 4.5 loads were very consistent, but a couple of those rounds are sort of “inbetweeners”. I’m confident that I could dial back just a little on the powder (say 4.4 grains) and get the best of both worlds with good consistency and good feed.

Comments? Suggestions?

Looking forward to hearing about the pig hunt.

Cost per round calculator

I was just having a conversation with a buddy on the merits of reloading 9MM. He didn’t think it was worth it because 9MM is already pretty cheap.

Found this nifty online calculator for determining cost per round and thought I would share.

http://www.handloads.com/calc/loadingCosts.asp

Here’s some steel case garbage for $379/1000.

I’m using once-shot brass, Hodgdon Universal and HMS 115gr. plated RN.

Here’s my calculated results:

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$206 per 1000 cheaper!